Mar 09 2008

Florida Monkeys With Education

Published by DaFrog at 4:13 pm under Historical, Incoherent Rambling, Political

With all of the important problems facing Florida and its economy what are we debating? Why evolution of course!

Americans are having problems competing in the global economy today. Many say it is because foreigners are better educated and work harder for less. There just might be something to this.

Nearly a hundred years ago, 1925 to be exact in Dayton. Tennessee, we fought this same battle in the court room. It was called the Scopes Monkey Trial. Then it was the state of Tennessee trying to equate their religious beliefs with scientific facts. “We’re not descended from apes!” they declared. Then they all acted like a bunch of monkeys trying to defend their stand.

Religion has its place. It belongs in the family and home, not in the classrooms we fund at taxpayer expense. Now we are facing the same ignorance driven campaign again today to introduce Intelligent Design into our school curriculum as a legitimate approach to science. It isn’t. It is based on mythology and ancient world view. A world view developed to explain those things unexplained to the people living post stone age. What have we learned since then?

Seventy-five years ago, a Tennessee high school teacher named John Scopes was arrested for teaching evolution in violation of state law.

His trial, which began this week in 1925, became one of the most celebrated courtroom proceedings in U.S. legal history — a “trial of the century” — because of the high-profile players involved, the media attention it received and the issues it raised. It was also called the “monkey trial” because evolutionists maintain that humans and monkeys share a common ancestor.

Today, the trial is noteworthy for the legal, scientific, religious, philosophical and political questions it raised — questions that will remain for a long time to come, experts say. (Source: CNN)

Today, people are losing their homes in Florida due to high taxes and out of control insurance companies. And while “No Show, Empty Chair” Charlie is out campaigning for John McCain, our legislature has dug up John Scopes and put it all on trial again.

Fortunately we have educators who are resisting this return to the dark ages and the proliferation of ignorance. David Campbell is a good example.

David Campbell, a science teacher at Ridgeview High in Clay County, near Jacksonville, heads off conflict by telling students what may seem obvious: There’s a big difference between science and faith.

“The student needs to know, ‘I’m not asking you to believe this. I’m just asking you to understand it,’” said Campbell, a 14-year veteran. (Source: St Petersburg Times)

Many of our competent Florida educators find themselves under the gun when it comes to teaching evolution. Darwin’s theory is accepted by virtually the entire civilized world. It has been tried and tested and found to contain great truth and is based on fact, not fiction.

The freshman in Dan McFarland’s Advanced Placement biology class at Durant High had a thoughtful question.He had read about a rock formation where radiometric dating found the layers on top appeared to be older than the layers on the bottom. How could that be, he wanted to know? And didn’t that put a dent in evolutionary theory?

McFarland, a 24-year veteran, knew the student was a young-earth creationist — somebody who believes God created the Earth a few thousand years ago — and hardly a lone wolf at Durant in Plant City.

So, McFarland did what he always does in these situations. He told the student he didn’t know the answer. But he suggested there may be scientific explanations. Perhaps the type of dating mechanism used wasn’t appropriate, or maybe the formation had been affected by a geologic event that resulted in layers being switched topsy-turvy.

The student wasn’t buying it. But he appreciated how McFarland handled his questions.

“He explained everything to the very best of his ability, but he didn’t convince me,” said Dan Barousse, now a senior who plans to study mechanical engineering in college next year. “It’s three years later and I’m still a young-earth creationist.”

Convincing the student, though, wasn’t McFarland’s goal.

“I’m not trying to disavow anyone of their religious beliefs,” he said. “I’m trying to offer scientific explanations for natural phenomena. That’s my job.”

Many of the science teachers interviewed by the Times echoed that sentiment.

In 20 years of teaching science, Rena White, a teacher at Challenger Middle School in Cape Coral, said she has never dealt with a parent upset about evolution. (But frog dissection? That’s a different story.) She tells them that their beliefs and values are important, and that they should hold on to them.

But if she asks them how old the Earth is on a test, she says, “the answer is 4.65-billion years.”

We are fortunate to have this test. After all the smoke and mirrors the creationist throw at us the answer remains the same, 4.65 billion years old.
Now what we really need to tackle is the barbaric practice of frog dissection. Frogs are people too!

7 responses so far

7 Responses to “Florida Monkeys With Education”

  1. Max Miroffon 09 Mar 2008 at 6:56 pm

    I agree with this article wholly. Things with facts supporting them should be valued higher educationally than those without any supporting facts. This is common sense. Situations like these must be approached with care (as the professor did) so that all sides are appeased.

  2. C. David Parsonson 10 Mar 2008 at 8:15 am

    Frogs are people too!

    Frogs do not possess an eternal soul. Each man will one day stand before God and be judged according to the works performed in this body. The prospect of eternal damnation and separation from a loving Creator is sufficient reason that each reader should judge if creationism or Darwinism is correct.

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  3. Da Frogon 10 Mar 2008 at 4:07 pm

    C. David Parsons, it is exactly the narrow minded, ethnocentric attitude of you and your ilk that are a major part of the problem in this country. Why is it that so many Christian fundamentalist believe that humankind is the ultimate creature on this planet. Humans are the only animals that kill wantonly.

    Christians make up but a third of the world’s population. The other 66% are comprised of people of different faiths. And faith is the key word here. Your belief in creationism is just that, a belief. And any belief requires a leap of faith to gain acceptance. Darwin’s Theory of Evolution is just that, a scientific theory, tested and found to be provable. It is disingenuous to stick an “ism” at the end of Darwin. Darwin’s theory is not a belief, it is a science.

    You talk of a loving Creator who is going to send those of us who question YOUR belief system to eternal damnation. Then, sir, we must be speaking of a different entity here. Is it a loving God or a vengeful tyrant?

    You also talk of a soul being something that only humans possess. Says who? I think it is pretty presumptive of people of your persuasion to put themselves above the rest of God’s creatures. Your’s is not the only religion out there, and many, if not most hold the creatures of the earth, God’s creations, in higher esteem than you do.

    By the way Mr Parsons, please don’t try to spam this blog any more. If you want to peddle your science fiction book about creation please do so elsewhere.

    I’ll leave you with one of my favorite quotes.

    “If there are no dogs in heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went.” Will Rodgers.

    I sure as hell don’t want to end up where you’re going.

  4. Wilma Lambon 29 Mar 2008 at 9:48 pm

    today’s students need to spend more class time studying history rather than peddling religion. Our constitution clearly draws a line between church and state, but like so many other articles of the greatest document ever written, the Bush administration has trampled on our freedoms.
    I am all for religion, I believe there is a supreme being who caused the universe to come into being but Jesus himself declared separation of church and state with his “render unto Ceaser” answer to the heckler.
    Our young people are woefully ignorant of even basic history.
    Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it, a quote from Georges Santayana was never more true than today.
    We are repeating the same foolish mistake the Brits, and French made in India, Palestine, north Africa, Egypt and all other countries by their “hegemony and now our own country did in when we meddled in middle eastern hegemony a few decades ago and are now pounding our national treasure and thousands of precious American lives, not to mention all the wasted Iraqi lives .

  5. Wilma Lambon 29 Mar 2008 at 9:55 pm

    PS, David C Parsons: you say frogs do not have eternal souls.
    yet you say you are a creationist.
    Read numbers, a chapter is devoted to counting animal souls. There are other places in the Bible that says animals have souls.
    I only have to look in the eyes of my dog and 6 cats to tell there is a soul there

  6. Da Frogon 30 Mar 2008 at 10:12 am

    Hooray Wilma! I agree wholeheartedly with you. Who can look into the eyes of their four legged companions and not see a kind and loving soul in there. Some of the best people I know are of the four legged persuasion.

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